

A Toronto local blog about living, playing and working on Queens Quay, Toronto's waterfront
Porter should be banned: Cannot immagine the pollution this will bring not to mention the total disregard of peace and quiet. Turn the island airport to a city park for all to enjoy. Poeple should be more environmentally conscious.
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there's no way you can hear them at king st: I worked at wellington and Portland for 3 years, and i've never, every heard any planes from the island. Not once. There's so much other noise between here and the island (the expressway, train tracks, Toronto in general), there's no way.
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Lived right there at 34 Little Norway facing the airport and the traffic on King Street is much louder (lived there as well). Just becuase you live on the water does not mean you are more entitled to quiet then everyone else. (BTW I love in a house now beside a subway station and the city buses are ALSO louder than any plane I ever heard on the waterfront).
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The planes do make alot of noise. I live at Bathurst and Queens Quay. The traffic is pretty messy too. It's only a matter of time before something bad will happen due largely to poor urban planning. If they had better public trains going to Pearson Airport I doubt this Porter thing would have had much luck.
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My 2 cents as someone that lives close by....First and foremost - Yes, I knew there was an airport when I moved in and I am not posting here to complain - just want to clarify a few points. Lets not give Porter too much credit for a successful business model since they received an undisclosed sum as a settlement when the bridge was cancelled (Estimates I have read are $20-$30M). Second, I will admit, the sounds of the planes are not that bad where I live - other than when they do their maintenance run ups - those are very, very loud and residents have a right to complain about them. Furthermore, The "Quiet" in the Q400 refers to the ride inside...not approach noise
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I live in the neighbourhood. I didn't know there was an airport even there until a week after I moved in. The way things are now is fine. There is nothing more awesome than walking to the airport, flying direct to Newark and taking US Helicopter from the terminal to midtown Manhattan, all for the same price as flying out of Pearson. This is the way travel should be.
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My sister lives near Bathurst and King. I visit her frequently. She knows the Porter airplanes bring plenty of noise.
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Cities and downtowns are defined by density; swaths of people living, working, and playing in a common area. [A private community on a public island], barricading off acres upon acres of prime downtown real estate, goes entirely against this philosophy, restricting a huge area to a meagre few. A large chunk of downtown, a stretch of one of the city's finest beaches, and a huge portion of the inner harbour are all off-limits. Imagine the benefit of [evicting the squatters and freeing up that land for everyone]? Homes, jobs, amenities... benefits for thousands and proper growth for the city [everything denied us by a bunch of NIMBYs]. The waterfront should be usable and enjoyable for the whole city, not just [those few people living on it].
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I lived on Queen's Quay for several years, right near the airport. Contrary to what the spoiled denizens of the Islands would have you believe, the airport is not a problem. In the years I lived there, not once was I awakened or annoyed by charter planes. It's also terrific that people can now take convenient trips without having to haul all the way out to Pearson, where usurious parking fees and terrible traffic reign. By all means, expand the Island Airport. Ignore the notoriously whiny NIMBY Islanders.
David McKenna from Toronto, Canada writes: I live in a condo apartment on the lakeshore and can see the airport out my window. It is true the planes actually are very quiet. As an airline, the service is superb and much better than any other airline. I travel regularly and cannot notice much difference between United, Delta, Air Canada, etc. Porter is significantly different.
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GK cheese from Toronto, Canada writes: Claims about current quietness seem a stretch. I live about 2 km's from the airport and can hear the turboprops rumbling every morning at 7 am. Mind you it's not as bad as the sound of the Gardiner Expwy.
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Bobby S from Canada writes: I am very happy for Porter and their CEO. They are a great company that run a pleasant, serviceable airline. I have used them many times and I live walking distance to the airport. I saw some of the protesters this morning, and I'm routinely greeted by them as I get off the flights, but I hope they don't derail, the good honest work by Porter. My only concern is that they don't become too big too quick. We all remember Jetsgo, and I certainly hope Porter sticks around for a long time.
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Wayne Morrison from Toronto, Canada writes: One other point. The island residents, and anybody who lives in a condo on the south side of the Gardner, are the last people on the planet who are entitled to complain about anybody ruining the view, taking up park space, or being located in an inappropriate space.
`More sensible Canadians can only shake their heads at such displays of small-mindedness. Porter — like larger, Calgary-based WestJet Airlines Ltd., which also took the risk of challenging Air Canada’s monopoly power — is succeeding in a cut-throat industry in which bankruptcies are all too common. (Air Canada is struggling to avoid its second such filing in six years in the face of dwindling demand and crushing debt and pension obligations.) It has done so not only through innovation and efficient service, but thoughtful amenities such as complimentary cappuccinos, Wi-fi service and computers in the Toronto terminal. (Oh, and you don’t have to join some hoity-toity “gold club” to get them.)
It is disheartening that Mr. Miller stands against the interests of a new, up-and-coming airline that has proven popular with passengers and revolutionized air travel in the region. Like Westjet, Porter has managed its feat without recourse to government bailouts or special subsidies. It deserves commendation, but instead faces continued hostility from Toronto’s obdurate left-wing council, which favours spending billions on a transit line to the distant and crowded Pearson while spurning the benefits to be had from promoting the more convenient island alternative.
Opposition to the Island Airport has never been about rationality or common sense. It has, however, served a useful ongoing distraction from the city's real problems which the Miller horde has done little to address.Phew, that`s a lot.
His behaviour regarding the Island Airport is shameful and embarrassing; like a spoiled child that doesn't get his way, his rigid ideological opposition reveals how out of touch he really is. The success of the airport is a fitting tribute for this sad episode.
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... Private enterprise is merely an opportunity for government bureaucrats to gorge themselves at the public trough for a few years.
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This is Toronto, jda- nothing gets done on the waterfront. The bickering and infighting between various orders of government and their attendant visions lead to a whole lot of inertia and little else.
All we end up seeing are a lot of press conferences featuring artist concepts of things that will never get built with plenty of windy talk from assorted grandees about a new 'vision' for the waterfront. Please. We don't need any more visionaries announcing fancy schemes that are completely divorced from reality. No more Robert Fungs.
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As a life long right of centre voter and against my own better judgement, I voted for Miller based entirely on the Island airport issue.
I do feel that his performance as a Mayor should be separated from the airport issue.
On his performance as a Mayor, he is a complete failure and should be removed from office. I won't get into the many reasons why here.
Despite his massive failure as a Mayor, the mere existence of the airport is an ongoing and embarrassing nightmare for the waterfront. The noise and pollution from the planes is horrific and in the long term erodes the potential for our city. (And don't try and convince me that the convenience of an inner city airport for a few thousand travellers is worth the cost - it's not even close...)
So, at least Miller was consistent with his views by not showing up yesterday and no one should be surprised, but add to Miller's many failures the fact that the airport still exists, and what we do agree on is that he should be booted from office as soon as possible.
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Tablogloid - the condominiums near the bottom of bathurst don't have anything to complain about either. I've stood outside at the mainland ferry terminal waiting to meet people arriving, and you don't notice any sound from the planes. MAYBE if you had unusually sensitive hearing and were straining to make them out you'd notice a faint buzz, but realistically, the noise is a tiny fraction of the constant hum from the Gardiner.
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Ya, those ~100 planes a day are a nightmare compared to the over 1-million cars that are drawn to the city daily by the over-concentration of business (jobs) downtown.
Phase one of the terminal opens November 2009, and includes passenger
facilities, aircraft gates and office space. The full facility, including 10
bridged aircraft gates, U.S. and Canadian customs, and two passenger lounges
will be complete by spring 2010.
"Porter's new terminal is a concrete sign of Toronto City Centre
Airport's revitalization and our long-term commitment to providing
customer-focused service and added competition for air travelers," said Don
Carty, chairman of Porter Airlines.
Bathurst Quay Neighbourhood Association Town Hall
Date: April 27 2009
Time: 7 – 9 p.m.
Location: Harbourfront Community Centre, 627 Queens Quay
Councillor Vaughan will be a guest speaker at this meeting being organized by the Bathurst Quay Neighbourhood Association. Bring your questions about the neighbourhood and hear about TTC service, traffic issues, the Toronto Island Airport, the Toronto Museum Project, a new library branch, and more.
From Environment Canada
AT 4:50 PM EDT RADAR SHOWS A LINE OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS APPROACHING WESTERN END OF LAKE ONTARIO. THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO REACH TORONTO BY 5;30 PM. WIND GUSTS TO 100 KM/H LARGE HAIL AND HEAVY DOWNPOURS ARE EXPECTED
The lights went out at several condos and an adjoining gymnasium near the Rogers Centre, some of them part of the massive Concord CityPlace development projects, shortly after 6 p.m. on Saturday. The blackout, which lasted almost 24 hours in some buildings, forced some residents to spend the night in hotels or with family.We've always wondered about the economies of scale when it comes to CityPlace. It shares gyms, garages and buildings are joined together to form complexes but it seems that there's more infrastructure shared.
While some backup lights immediately switched on at the gym and other areas, there were none at all for several hours in at least one of the condo buildings.
In total, nine buildings suffered blackouts of varying lengths, from a couple of hours to almost a full day.Anyone have any stories to share?
Several of the CityPlace towers are closely connected, sharing a sprawling underground garage. "The problem is this: Why is it when something affects one building it affects all the buildings?" asked Gary Pieters, a resident in one of the affected towers. "That's a development flaw."
Location: 190 QUEENS QUAY E
TORONTO ON M5A 3Y4
Ward 28: Toronto Centre-Rosedale
Application#: 09 115477 DEM 00 DM Accepted Date: Mar 10, 2009
Project: Other Demolition
Description: This proposal includes the demolition of the existing one(1) storey building to make way for a park that is to be created as part of the Toronto Waterfront initiative.
Sherbourne Park will be a spectacular new park in the heart of the East Bayfront midway between the Jarvis and Parliament Street slips. It will be both a local and regional amenity. The park will extend from the water’s edge to Lake Shore Boulevard, bisected by Queens Quay. It is envisioned as an urban room and will provide a strong terminus at the foot of Sherbourne Street. On the east and west sides, the park will be bound by buildings with a weather protected arcade creating a link to the waterfront during all seasons. At its southern end the park will be integrated with the continuous water’s edge promenade and will be designed to reinforce and strengthen the water’s edge as a continuous and active year round destination. Park programming could include a large public gathering place and a water feature that could be frozen in the winter for skating.
There are many beautiful but unknown spots around here, so we have a small list of locations for pet owners to take photos of their pets:
1. PawsWay
2. One of: Little Norway Park or Music Gardens or HTO Park
3. Background of a boat on Lake Ontario
4. Harbourfront Community Centre
5. At our store
The grand prize is a free grooming session, and there are also secondary and participant prizes, so everyone wins! The contest deadline to submit photos is April 30th.
With the gorgeous weather we're getting this week, a lot of people are starting to venture outside again! There are tons of pet owners in the neighbourhood, so we're hoping to get the message out.
For complete details, please visit: http://cosmopawlitan.wordpress.com/2009/04/13/ contest-cosmopawlitan-spring- snaps/
i visited porticello a few nights ago. the decor looks slightly updated. they say they have a new menu, but the food was very similar to what i remembered from before. not to say that that's bad. my meal was flavorful, inexpensive and down to earth. it just wasn't all that different. there were a few patrons.
The Watermark Irish Pub and Restaurant is bringing the luck and charm of the Irish to the Harbourfront District! Located in the Queen’s Quay Terminal, Watermark features a panoramic view of Toronto’s harbourfront, seating for 240 inside the pub and patio space for up to 220 overlooking the waterfront.
Planning Study for King-Spadina East Precinct
Date: Monday, April 20, 2009
Time: 7 – 9 p.m.
Location: Metro Hall, 55 John St, Room 308/309
City staff have been undertaking a study of the built form of the East Precinct of the King-Spadina Secondary Plan Area (bounded by Richmond St W, Simcoe St, Front St W and Spadina Ave). The study’s purpose is to determine appropriate building heights, massing and physical relationships in the area.
This meeting is being hosted by the City of Toronto Planning Division. For more information, contact Judy Josefowicz, Senior Planner, at 416-392-1306.
Trinity-Spadina Condo Association Meeting
Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009
Time: 7 – 9 p.m.
Location: Harbourfront Community Centre, 627 Queens Quay (at Bathurst), Medium Assembly Room
You are invited to attend the founding meeting of the Trinity-Spadina Condo Residents Association. For more information, you can contact 416-603-9664.
Proposed Off-Leash Area in Little Norway Park and Coronation Park
Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009
Time: 7 – 9 p.m.
Location: Harbourfront Community Centre, 627 Queens Quay, Medium Assembly RoomIn accordance with the City of Toronto People, Dogs and Parks policy, an application to create an off-leash area in Little Norway Park and Coronation Park has been received by the Parks, Forestry and Recreation division. City staff have conducted their assessments for these parks and are hosting this public information update.The purpose of this meeting is to review City policies related to Dogs Off-Leash, review the off-leash area that has been approved by Parks, Forestry and Recreation, and to finalize the ‘Conditions of Use’ agreement.More information about the City policy is available at: http://www.toronto.ca/parks/dogs.htm For further information, please contact Mark Emslie, Parks Supervisor, 416-392-1759, or Peter Leiss, Parks Supervisor, 416-392-7945.
INADEQUATE FOOD TEMPERATURE CONTROL Operator fail to maintain hazardous food(s) at 4C (40F) or colder. C Notice to ComplyIn the spirit of Eat Local, we were going to try this place, then we read some reviews on a few sites like this one. Suffice it to say, we think there are plenty of other restaurants we can try on the strip. Any one try eating there?
FAILURE TO PROTECT FOOD FROM CONTAMINATION
IMPROPER MAINTENANCE / SANITATION OF FOOD CONTACT SURFACES / UTENSILS /EQUIPMENT
IMPROPER MAINTENANCE / SANITATION OF NON-FOOD CONTACT SURFACES / EQUIPMENT
IMPROPER STORAGE / REMOVAL OF WASTE
CONDITION(S) FOR CLOSURE Operator fail to maintain premises free of sewage back-up
Air Canada, the old guard of Canadian airspace, spent the week teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, but Porter Airlines Inc., the 2½ -year-old upstart based out of the Toronto City Centre Airport, made headlines for a different reason. The tiny offshore airport played host to the federal government's announcement of $5-million in new spending for customs services at select airports, including Porter's on the Toronto Islands.
The funding, plus the government's decision to announce it at Porter's headquarters, was "a welcome endorsement of this airline," said Mr. Deluce. "The airport is maturing and coming of age and is now worthy of those more permanent facilities."
Translation: Porter is on the way up, not under.
And that means the long-running fight over whether the island closest to shore should host planes or a park is settled, at least for now.
"the company's recent decision to double the number of daily flights on the popular Montreal-Toronto route and bump the Toronto-Ottawa flight frequency by 50 per cent"
The National Post says it'll take place at the "Harbourfront Centre, the Toronto Music Garden, and HtO Park, Cirque du Soleil's waterfront visit is experiential with encounters happening"
For our closing weekend, Canada’s international entertainment company Cirque du Soleil® presents a special event created especially for Luminato. This event is an inquiry into the very essence of human civilization.
Beginning Friday night, two “communities” will form on the Toronto waterfront: one representing the natural world in which we have our instinctual roots and the urban community, the world we have constructed around ourselves. They’ll make their homes at opposite ends of the site, each in an environment antithetical to their respective world-view.
What will happen as the weekend unfolds and the two communities encounter and interact with each other? You’ll have to join in the festivities to find out – but expect to be amazed. Be sure to seize this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to experience Luminato and Cirque du Soleil as never before!
Very interesting observation. We have lots of 'chains' on the waterfront and does that really make sense or even encourage a unique neighbourhood. Maybe we need to support them while they (restaurants) need to adapt to a changing clientele.
Maybe the rents being charged by landlords for retail on Queen's Quay reflect that they are big-time developers of high rise apartment buildings who would rather have tenants with strong "corporate covenants" than independents who would contribute to the character and growth of the area. The rents at the foot of most of the buildings are unrealistic for any tenant other than formula-type franchises, be they food or cell-phones... Sadly, the closing of this Indian restaurant is just another example of poor planning when there were some good examples on this continent to look (eg Baltimore Inner Harbour) of those harbour front developments that have thought ahead and consequently now have diverse, evolving and sustainable retail destinations.
i liked the indian place -- kinda messy, but the food was good. however, it's hard to tell if its demise was the result of stingy locals or what's going on in the wider economy. restaurants are suffering everywhere.It's true, and I think it goes back to outreach by restaurateurs. Maybe the build it and they will come won't work with everyone. We wonder why we never saw a flyer or any other way of building community. We note that in our condo, we see a few ads for Paws, the new pet store that's beside the Radisson.
i was thinking of porticello the other day. i thought it'd do well after the hto park/spadina wavedeck opened, but obviously it didn't. however, now that i think about it, you could hardly notice it from the street. kinda sad.